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RobertLumley comments on Can't Pursue the Art for its Own Sake? Really? - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: RobertLumley 20 September 2011 03:13:03AM 0 points [-]

I don't think he's wrong - your "higher value" in this instance is being more rational. You have a positive utility function for being a more rational person, not because of the consequences of it (for which you also presumably have a positive utility function) but because you want to be more rational. That's not wrong, it's just another "higher value".

Logic is a method of moving from syllogisms to conclusions. It doesn't necessarily say what those syllogisms should be, and obviously people with different syllogisms will reach different conclusions.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 20 September 2011 03:21:42AM 2 points [-]

By this logic is there anyone who doesn't have a higher value?

Comment author: RobertLumley 20 September 2011 03:25:03AM 0 points [-]

I would argue that no, there isn't.

Comment author: TrE 20 September 2011 05:12:31AM *  0 points [-]

Except for maybe some people with brain injury in the "right" areas. Their behaviour will probably be influenced by extreme apathy.

Comment author: atucker 20 September 2011 05:07:29AM -1 points [-]

Yeah, it seems like most people who want to pursue rationality are running into infinite recursion, it seems like they're doing it because they feel like it.

Comment author: potato 20 September 2011 03:44:12AM *  0 points [-]

Up VOTE! Super helpful first paragraph. You rock, thank you. Being more rational is my higher goal than being rational. I subordinate my desire to be rational as I conceive it currently, to my desire to become more rational.

I'm a bit confused about the second. I agree with it. I just don't know why you bring it up

edit: why the down vote? I'm curious.