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Khoth comments on Weak supporting evidence can undermine belief - Less Wrong Discussion

11 Post author: Lightwave 29 September 2011 10:11AM

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Comment author: Khoth 29 September 2011 10:36:16AM *  40 points [-]

Generally, if you're given evidence for something, the evidence-giver is trying to convince you of that something. If you're given only weak evidence, that itself is evidence that there is no strong evidence (if there is strong evidence, why didn't they tell you that instead?), and so in some circumstances it could be rational to downgrade your probability estimate.

Comment author: shokwave 29 September 2011 11:10:47AM 7 points [-]

Sure, this makes perfect sense in a political environment - or in the ancestral environment, where I'm sure this kind of thing was very important to breeding (I could even take a shot at an evolutionary argument for this kind of instinct!). But that instinct is a net positive only in political situations; our current environment is significantly more factual-uncertainty based than political-uncertainty based. This may make the instinct a net negative.

Comment author: rwallace 30 September 2011 12:43:29AM 6 points [-]

Is that true? Surely even on a purely factual matter, it is still the case that he who makes a claim, will typically give his best evidence for the claim, so if the best evidence offered is weak, that still suggests stronger evidence doesn't exist.

Comment author: shokwave 30 September 2011 06:57:00AM 2 points [-]

that he who makes a claim, will typically give his best evidence for the claim, so if the best evidence offered is weak,

If a person is making a claim to you and knowing whether this claim is right or wrong is important, things are already pretty political! I was thinking of a scientific study providing weak evidence in favour of something, and this heuristic hurting our estimates.

Comment author: jhuffman 29 September 2011 01:22:31PM 3 points [-]

Also in this case, we have evidence that there is only token support in congress for public measures to improve adoption. I'm kind of surprised the control found this evidence to be net positive really. And I wonder if the evidence gets evaluated a little different when people have to use it rather than just evaluate it.

Comment author: wedrifid 30 September 2011 01:07:35AM 1 point [-]

When I read the title I had expected that this was the point of the post. Perhaps because I've been intending to write a post to that effect for the last three years or so.

So I agree completely.