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DanielLC comments on Don't ban chimp testing - Less Wrong Discussion

15 Post author: PhilGoetz 01 October 2011 05:17PM

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Comment author: DanielLC 01 October 2011 07:35:49PM 3 points [-]

I also encourage you to adopt a tone of moral outrage.

I don't think that's a good idea. That would make them act defensive. I can't remember where it was, but there was an article on here that talked about how if you claim someone is an idiot for believing in God, they can either believe they're an idiot, or believe you're wrong. People don't like to believe they're idiots. People don't like to believe they're harming uncountable innocents either.

Incidentally, the position I take with animal research is to just have a fine that's as costly as the pain to the animal. If it's worth doing, they'll be able to afford the fine. If it's not, they won't.

Comment author: Jack 01 October 2011 08:45:59PM 10 points [-]

That would make them act defensive.

You're not trying to convince the editorial board. This is politics, throw out your white hat.

Comment author: DanielLC 01 October 2011 11:28:43PM 3 points [-]

Right. Forgot about that.

Debates where you try to convince the other person are very different than ones where you try to convince the audience.

They haven't made up there mind yet (at least, almost all of the ones that you'd convince), so they won't feel like they'd be harming innocents.