This is a very good argument. But on the other hand those pushing for wealth redistributions are (today) far from radical, basically the establishment. People look back on history and see that this establishment has always eventually "made the right choice" (or at least that is the publicly accepted narrative).

I didn't mean to imply that I thought they were revolutionaries. It's a bit of black comedy that the people who style themselves as radicals speaking truth to power are completely orthodox defenders of The Man. It's a similar scene with Christians on Fox News, feeling persecuted and martyred in the US for their faith whenever there is the tiniest pushback against them having their way. They've both got their narratives playing as the soundtrack to their lives, no matter how incongruous to reality.

With the Revolutionary Vanguard cracks, I was getting at the heads I win, tails you lose nature of the Vanguard's faith in their program. If the Proles don't agree that the Vanguards program, the obvious reason, that the Proles don't think it's good for them, is overlooked, and instead theories about the "false consciousness" of the Proles sprout like mushrooms on a rotting tree stump.