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-3 Post author: potato 24 October 2011 11:00PM

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Comment author: potato 24 October 2011 11:39:43PM *  1 point [-]

For example, the quote from the Twelve Virtues sounded familiar, but I almost certainly would not have been able to place it.

Twelve virtues is really popular, that's why I wrote that. I'll take it out if it's distracting. (done and done)

Moreover, the way these quotes are used almost feels like you are quoting religious proof texts or writing a highschool English essay rather than actually using them in a useful way.

I was actually disagreeing with them, you understand this right. If not let me know, cause that's important for my readers to get off the bat. Those are the two quotes I remember most clearly saying that we shouldn't name the highest value. i put them there as evidence that not naming the highest value is standard LW doctrine. So if it came off as quoting doctrine perhaps I made my point.

On the Log stuff. I know other bases work fine too. But normalization is nice, actually i think I write log_b somewhere.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 24 October 2011 11:50:37PM *  1 point [-]

Not just other bases. I can construct another function as follows: Fix a basis for R over Q. I can do this if I believe in the axiom of choice. Call the elements of that basis x(i). Consider then the function that takes elements of log_x, writes them with respect to the basis and then zeros the coordinate connected to a fixed basis element x(0). This function will have your desired property and is not a constant times log.

Comment author: potato 24 October 2011 11:58:42PM *  0 points [-]

Interesting. Is it continuous as well?

I may be wrong. But I think EY say's in tech explanation that no other function satisfies that condition and is also proper.

Is this f a proper scoring rule?

Comment author: JoshuaZ 25 October 2011 12:10:40AM 1 point [-]

No. This is wildly non-continuous. It also isn't proper. This is why specifying what your hypotheses are for your theorems is important.

Comment author: potato 25 October 2011 12:12:51AM *  0 points [-]

good point.But I think I said it had to be proper. I've made that more explicit.