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Comment author: Dorikka 05 November 2011 04:03:34PM *  5 points [-]

Even after reading the Wikipedia article, I'm having trouble imagining how a small/medium mammal evolves into a tumor.

Comment author: AlexSchell 05 November 2011 04:57:45PM 34 points [-]

I think the trouble might come from imagining the process as a gradual process by which a dog population evolved into a tumor population (which is not what happened; the wording in the original post is pretty misleading). The dog-to-tumor part is actually the easier and less shocking part of the story. Tumors are basically just cells that by some mutation have trouble regulating cell division and then divide uncontrollably. Malignant tumors (what we call cancers) are just tumors that happen to harm the organism (and maybe metastasize). So this particular tumor was once a dog cell, just as every human cancer starts out as a human cell. The interesting part of the story is that the tumor got to have a limited ability to survive outside of the original dog's body, and got to be able to survive within other dogs and other canids.

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 06 November 2011 06:58:35PM *  9 points [-]

The dog evolved into a tumor in the same sense in which Henrietta Lacks evolved into a cell line. If the cell lines descended from the original Lacks culture managed to spread into the wild, you would have essentially the same story. You might then say that Lacks evolved into a species of single-celled organisms.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 November 2011 08:53:21PM *  12 points [-]

The genes that built her found a better vector to spread themselves.