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Comment author: Logos01 09 November 2011 02:30:35AM 1 point [-]

First; there's a reason why I myself am not dosing adderall or any other amphetamine.

Secondly; I haven't known anyone that's been a long-term user of adderall or any dextroamphetamines, but I do know people that have been using methamphetamines for as long as a decade.

Thirdly; the point remains that amphetamines as a class are widely seen as nootropic.

Comment author: jhuffman 09 November 2011 08:46:12PM *  0 points [-]

I did click on your link before, but I guess I did not really read it because I should have noted that the first sentence in that section states exactly my opinion on the issue.

Stimulants are often seen as smart drugs, but may be more accurately termed productivity enhancers. Some stimulants can enhance cognition and memory in some people, but cause psychosis in others.[citation needed] They generally have a very substantial side-effect profile and are not considered classical "nootropic" drugs.

I would guess you probably agree with regard to the side-effect profile and so maybe this just boils down to me being fussy about what they call a "classical nootropic".

Comment author: Logos01 09 November 2011 09:00:20PM 0 points [-]

I would guess you probably agree with regard to the side-effect profile

Well, according to the longitudinal studies I've seen adderall dosing's long-term effects in adults aren't all that severe comparatively speaking. I wouldn't dose it -- (I already have high blood pressure as it is, and unlike modafinil adderall is a genuine amphetamine). In general I'm rather leary of what I (inappropriately) refer to as "psychoactives" -- that is, drugs that induce altered mental states ("highs").

maybe this just boils down to me being fussy about what they call a "classical nootropic".

As in, a pill that raises your IQ. Yeah, no such beast exists today.