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14 Post author: PhilGoetz 08 December 2011 11:47PM

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Comment author: roystgnr 09 December 2011 07:24:22PM 8 points [-]

This theory has obvious intended moral lessons; I'd actually be very curious as to why you perceive it as morally-neutral. Is is that you see the primary lesson as so obvious ("pillaging isn't a sustainable economy") that it doesn't appear to be didactic? I wouldn't be surprised if the lessons were the whole point of the theory; I've heard it used before as an analogy to criticize the Soviet Union's political structure and the United States' economic structure (by two different people, naturally).

Now that I think about it, since entire schools of morality can be roughly summarized as "morals are the codes of conduct that make your civilization work well", I doubt it's even possible to come up with a theory explaining a civilization's collapse without that theory inherently expressing a moral lesson. Even "external factors destroyed it" could be interpreted as "you should be more paranoid than they were about dangerous external factors".