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lessdazed comments on Problems of the Deutsch-Wallace version of Many Worlds - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: lessdazed 02 January 2012 06:00:02PM 0 points [-]

I would very much appreciate critical feedback on this comment, as I have no math background.

First, there is no definite number of "worlds" or "branches". They have a fuzzy, vague, approximate, definition-dependent existence.

Some stuff can no longer influence other stuff due to distance and the locality of physics, whereas in the past it could. As time goes on, this is true of more and more things. For each bit of stuff and each other bit, the question of whether they are or are not in range has a definite answer, whether we know it or not. So what is fuzzy?

Second, the probability law of quantum mechanics (the Born rule) is to be obtained, not by counting the frequencies of events in the multiverse, but by an analysis of rational behavior in the multiverse.

Historically, this might be true for Wallace or someone else. But one wouldn't say that measure theory is an interpretation of probability, nor that every mathematical equation with pi has to do with/was derived from observing circles (even when in a historical sense, that is how someone figured some equation out, as that has nothing to do with its applications and what it is consistent with).

The math used might be isomorphic to that used to describe rational actors. But if someone is speaking about it in such terms, even if they are right, they must be missing (or not telling me) the higher level, meta, more abstracted truth that describes why both decision theory and quantum mechanics are describable by this math. Is that higher level explained anywhere?

If someone actually believes that they can "make a quantum coinflip come out a different way by redefining [their] utility function," they are wrong about some things, but their using the same mathematical structure to derive the Born identity and describe rational actors isn't thereby too doubtful.