Essentially you've completely retreated from your original positive claim and are instead trying to paint yourself as the innocent victim of my horrible moralising, when this is not the case.

This (and the rest of the parent) is utter nonsense - and both logically and conventionally rude. I don't retract anything at all and wedrifid<04 Jan 2012> reaffirms everything his recent past selves have said in his initial claim and subsequent comments until now.

I responded to your initial question under the assumption that you were at least slightly genuinely curious. My impression now is that you are more interested in jumping to and from whichever strawman is the most convenient caricature of a given parent. I don't have words to express how not-ok I am with the flow of this conversation which are not subject to self-censorship.