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Comment author: juliawise 12 January 2012 10:05:51PM *  0 points [-]

I have no problem just lying to conventional altruists

What's your goal here? To make them feel better? To avoid seeming like a jerk? Or to further whatever goals you consider altruistic/generally a good idea? If the last one, why lie to them? Because you think there's no way they'll see your point?

Obviously none of us speaks our minds all the time - when I see someone giving to a cause I consider inefficient, I don't shout, "Wait, I know a better way!" But if there's an opportunity, saying "I really wonder if increasing the world's population is a good idea at this point, so I favor charities that focus on quality of life rather than lives saved" seems better to me than false agreement. Jerkitude and lying are not your only options here.

Comment author: wedrifid 13 January 2012 04:42:00AM 0 points [-]

What's your goal here? To make them feel better? To avoid seeming like a jerk?

To execute the role of someone with rudimentary social skills and reap the many benefits that go along with that. Sometimes evangelism (or obnoxious invalidation of people's warm-fuzzies) just isn't the most useful action in a given circumstance.

"Wedrifid" is somewhat more forthright than I in this regard.