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11 Post author: MoreOn 23 January 2012 02:52PM

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Comment author: see 24 January 2012 12:07:00PM 4 points [-]

I don't want to generalize too much from 2 examples, but now it seems to me that the "everything is ok now" part is a huge warning, even if it's followed by some rationalization. Not sure why.

Consider: It's much easier to commit suicide if the people around you aren't on guard against you committing suicide.

"I am contemplating suicide for unclear reasons" was a gasp of the part of the person not yet committed to action of suicide; it puts people on guard, it gets them to help (interfere, from the view of the suicidal parts of the mind). If the person then decides to commit suicide, he's got to set the guardians at ease, get them to cease interfering. Telling the lie that "everything is okay now" makes it easier to succeed at suicide.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 24 January 2012 12:23:48PM 0 points [-]

Makes sense. :-(

But it may be many different causes for different people. For example is someone's depression is biologically caused and they take some prescribed drugs, they may honestly report improvement... and then become overconfident and stop taking the drugs.

Comment author: see 24 January 2012 11:03:33PM 0 points [-]

But it may be many different causes for different people.

Oh, of course. I speak from only my own mix of experience and imagination, not as a trained or experienced psychologist. The powerful emotions of my individual experience definitely bias me to a specific view which I probably overgeneralize, even when I'm conscious that I might be overgeneralizing.