I'm sorry for continuing this, because I feel like I'm just not getting why I'm wrong and we're going in circles. And while I'm fairly confident that some of the downvoting is grudge based some of it is not, and was here before this happened.
How are you defining terminal values? EY defined it as values that "are desirable without conditioning on other consequences". It seems to me that regardless of the things are, if you value things you have (or sure things) more than potential future things, that would qualify as a terminal value.
I haven't been downvoting you, for what it's worth.
Anyway, I think our disagreement revolves around different interpretations of desirable in that quote (I think that definition's a little loose, incidentally, but that doesn't seem to be problematic here). You seem to be defining it as based on choice: a world-state is desirable relative to another if an agent would choose it over the other given the opportunity. That's pretty close to the thinking in economics among other disciplines, hence why I've been talking so much about revealed preference.
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When I was a graduate student at the University of Notre Dame, I received a monthly living stipend of roughly $1,600. I decided to commit to giving ~10% of it to charity, and I had read in Peter Singer's book The Life You Can Save that one of the most efficient charities out there was Population Services International (PSI). Singer reported that GiveWell, a leading charity rating organization, had estimated that PSI's efforts saved lives at a cost of $650-$1000 each (pp. 88-89). So, I set up a recurring monthly donation of $160 to PSI, and kept it up for 15 months, for a total donation of $2,400.
I've been meaning to post the above information publicly for awhile, but was pushed over the edge by reading one of Eliezer's posts from a couple years back, Why Our Kind Can't Cooperate:
Since Eliezer's post is about rationalists, he stresses the issue of what arguments people voice. However, we know that just telling other people that you've given to charity makes them more likely to give. This is a point that Singer himself has emphasized.
I propose a thread for people to publicize their charitable donations. In light of the above, I'm especially interested to hear from people who've donated to the Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence. Once I acquire a regular source of income again in March, I intend to continue to primarily direct my charitable giving towards PSI, but maybe someone in this thread will persuade me to start giving to the Singularity Institute.