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Comment author: moridinamael 25 January 2012 06:24:54PM 17 points [-]

It seems to be the case that happiness is actually not caused by getting what you want, but rather by wanting what you get. It's been challenging for me to square this psychological fact with the notion of utility maximization.

Although, I think your point might have been that I could have phrased that sentence more clearly without referring to utility.

Comment author: APMason 25 January 2012 07:14:06PM 4 points [-]

Well, sure that may be true to the extent that you value happiness. What I was pointing out was that if you were completely miserable, saying "I should modify myself to prefer being miserable to being happy because then I'll get some of that sweet, sweet utility" is just wacky.

Comment author: moridinamael 25 January 2012 07:18:15PM 0 points [-]

Sure. I wasn't defending the idea, or suggesting that we should do it. It is "wacky." Regardless, it is a meme that other human beings actually try to implement.

Comment author: APMason 25 January 2012 07:50:47PM 0 points [-]

Nor did I think we disagreed.

Comment author: Blueberry 25 March 2012 06:53:16AM 0 points [-]

It seems to be the case that happiness is actually not caused by getting what you want, but rather by wanting what you get. It's been challenging for me to square this psychological fact with the notion of utility maximization.

Why? That just means that happiness is overrated.