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26 Post author: Multiheaded 25 January 2012 05:43PM

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Comment author: DanielLC 26 January 2012 03:10:35AM 29 points [-]

Zoophilia is perfectly fine.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 26 January 2012 03:30:38AM *  55 points [-]

The prevailing arguments against it are incoherent for non-vegans anyhow. Nonhuman animals can't consent? How can it possibly make sense to claim the relevance of consent for (non-painful) sexual activity for a class of animals which can be legally killed more or less on demand for its meat or skin, or if it becomes inconvenient to keep? The consent argument is bogus; the popular moral beliefs against zoophilia are actually not based on a legalistic rights framework, but on a purity/corruption/ickiness framework.

Comment author: erratio 26 January 2012 02:53:59PM *  10 points [-]

I've tried that exact argument in the past with non-LW-inclined friends. From what I remember the main reactions were either (paraphrased) "I'm too squicked out to engage with your argument" or "you're probably right but it's still gross".

EDIT: there was context involved. Damned if I remember what it was but even with my closest friends I wouldn't defend zoophilia just for fun.

Comment author: APMason 26 January 2012 05:32:18PM 12 points [-]

I tried it once on a different forum. I was immediately called a troll and run out of town.

...Which is sort of fair enough.

Comment author: DanielLC 27 January 2012 03:56:34AM 3 points [-]

I've seen someone mention that they're a zoophile on a utilitarianism forum. The reaction was limited to one person asking if there's a difference between zoophilia and bestiality.

Comment author: pedanterrific 02 February 2012 06:15:22AM 4 points [-]

Now I'm interested. Is there?

Comment author: DanielLC 02 February 2012 05:23:31PM 1 point [-]

No. At least, not that he knows of.

Comment author: Aurini 15 March 2012 06:01:05AM 12 points [-]

I know way too much about this stuff.

Bestiality is simply having sex with animals. Zoophilia is having romantic, sexual relationships with animals.

I fail to see a problem with either.

Comment author: APMason 27 January 2012 03:59:03AM 5 points [-]

Well, of course, I still reserve the right to be creeped out.