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Comment author: RomeoStevens 29 May 2012 09:06:31PM 1 point [-]

Counterfactually, yes you do!

In exploring people's preferences I have discovered that I am weird. I don't think positive utility cancels out negative utility.

I mean, how could it be that human sexuality is bound to a specific kind of adversarial relationship

I've recently been made aware of the fact that it is more likely that it is a specific kind of middle class farmer culture (in the hansonian sense) sexual norm that I am objecting to, not a universal one.

so I reject your latest conclusion as well

it isn't my conclusion, though I'm too lazy to dig up the citations right now.

As for things getting better despite everyone fighting against it, yes, that is basically what I believe. Tech innovation has been and continues to be sharply limited by crappy social conditions.

Comment author: wedrifid 30 May 2012 12:17:53AM 1 point [-]

In exploring people's preferences I have discovered that I am weird. I don't think positive utility cancels out negative utility.

It would seem that you are using a different definition of the word "utility" than the one which is used in technical game theoretical analysis.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 30 May 2012 05:51:58AM -1 points [-]

yes this is true.

Comment author: CuSithBell 29 May 2012 10:08:40PM -1 points [-]

Well, suffice to say I agree that utility models are pretty terrible for modeling people.

The depression / creativity thing I have heard before, and is possibly quite true, though luckily it's not a hard-and-fast rule.