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kilobug comments on Faustian bargains and discounting - Less Wrong Discussion

12 Post author: RolfAndreassen 29 January 2012 05:10AM

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Comment author: kilobug 29 January 2012 09:52:16AM 3 points [-]

To me it more depends on how you estimate the probability of being able to get out of the deal given enough time to try to find loopholes or other ways to break the deal.

Part of the "discounting future utilons" comes from the fact that we don't know the future for sure, and the further the future is, the less we know about it. That applies to (some?) smokers (who don't know for sure they'll have cancer) or some criminals (who hope they'll escape justice). That "oh, I'll see when we'll get closer to it" mindset is to a point reasonable - there are many problems you can solve later. But humans tend to not multiply right - a high chance of cancer or long prison term should still outweigh the temporary gain. Or a high chance of infinity of torture.

Comment author: RolfAndreassen 30 January 2012 05:02:51AM 1 point [-]

I observe that if we take this as straight Christian theology, you cannot plan to repent, and true repentance - not just wishing to avoid the consequences! - is the only way out. For other varieties of Omega, who knows?