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Yes, I do think there are ways to draw women to Less Wrong that would be easier than "flirt-to-convert". The 2011 survey indicates that we are already making progress in this area. We also drawing interest from anti-sexism bloggers such as Hugh Ristik, Clarisse Thorn and Ozymandias. The latter has started a LW-influenced feminist blog that avoids the mind-killing patterns of thought that have derailed mainstream feminism.
Of course, women are still underrepresented on LessWrong. I'm not sure how much of that is due to sexism within LW, sexism outside of LW, or innate differences between the female and male populations. But to hastily presume that women will never flock to LessWrong unless we "flirt-to-convert" is sexist. We don't want to turn into r/atheism.
I would have readily agreed that there were easier and more effective ways to draw more women to Less Wrong than flirt-to-convert before reading this comment. It suggests to me that the relative power of flirt-to-convert to other strategies is far greater than I would have predicted, and implementing more effective ones may be harder than I thought.
Instead of just guessing how people have come to find out about LW, I figured why don't we ASK?
I have made a poll, and posted the link on the discussion section. Please answer. Even if you are a lurker. ESPECIALLY if you are a female.
Click here to go to the post
We've had at least one thread on this before, and the question was also featured on the latest survey, although there's only a single category for people referred in person by another person.
I went ahead and played around with the survey data, and got some interesting results:
Women are more likely to have been brought into LW by either a friend or by reading HPMoR
Percentage of women referred by a friend: 18%
Percentage of men referred by a friend: 10%
Percentage of women referred by HPMoR: 33%
Percentage of men referred by HPMoR: 17%
Conversely, men were more likely to have been brought in by OB or other blogs:
Percentage of women referred by OB: 18%
Percentage of men referred by OB: 29%
Percentage of women referred by other blogs: 13%
Percentage of men referred by other blogs: 24%
Referral by search engines were about the same between the sexes, with 8% of females, and 9% of males. The rest were write-ins, most commonly of specific websites that referred them.
ETA- This is for the data for the big 2011 survey. Not for the data from the currently running survey
Also, both were about the same age, with females averaging 26, and males averaging 27.
Females however, had a higher self-reported IQ and higher average karma
Average female self-reported IQ: 145.4
Average male self-reported IQ: 139.7
Average female karma: 1,599
Average male karma: 600
Thanks for the links! But the thread doesn't clarify between genders, and also doesn't come in an easy to manipulate format (such as a spreadsheet)
The survey does much better at this, but has almost half the respondents answer that they came from OB or HPMoR, where I am specifically asking "If you came from OB or HPMoR, then how did you find THOSE sites?"