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Comment author: [deleted] 06 February 2012 09:41:57PM 0 points [-]

Thus, the welcome that references women invokes anti-male sexism.

Will a local refutation of this by daenerys relax fears?

Don't underestimate the mental/social barrier between lurking and posting

Agreed. Thus, an extended hand is helpful.

Comment author: TimS 06 February 2012 09:50:58PM 1 point [-]

Will a local refutation of this by daenerys relax fears?

Maybe? But she didn't.

I think that omission was justifiable. The nature of social principles of construction is that making your disagreement with them explicit is unlikely to be effective because (1) you won't always be believed, (2) you might look like you are signalling a belief rather than holding that belief, and (3) noting that a particular social convention doesn't apply in this circumstance can function to reinforce that the convention does and should apply in most circumstances.


Also, I owe you a bit of an apology. All of this was really obvious to me in reading Konkvistador's comment, and I erroneously assumed a short inferential distance. My semi-snarky reply to you assumes the short inferential distance. That is, I didn't assume your question was in good faith, and I should have. Sorry.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 February 2012 09:57:42PM *  1 point [-]

Thanks for the apology, but we aren't solving Friendliness here. AFAICT, daenerys just wants to reach out to lurking females. Her doing so will have a negligible non-imaginary negative impact on the community and, indeed, the world at large.

Comment author: TimS 06 February 2012 10:03:24PM *  0 points [-]

I'm not sure that all feminists would acknowledge any negative impact at all (consider Mary Daly). That's bad mental hygiene.
I guess I wrote what I did as part of my personal project to convince feminism-skeptics that not all feminism is inherently unhealthy for mental hygiene.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 February 2012 10:08:31PM 0 points [-]

If her Wikipedia page is any guide, Mary Daly had exceedingly poor mental hygiene.

not all feminism is inherently unhealthy for mental hygiene.

The path between there and here seems dauntingly circuitous.

Comment author: [deleted] 06 February 2012 10:10:31PM *  0 points [-]

I in no way mean to make males feel unwelcome in this survey. All voices are welcome. However, I do feel that it is worthwhile to specifically encourage females to answer. Here is my reasoning below

Say 100 people respond to the survey. At only 8% female users, we are only going to have 8 female answers. If we want to know how females came to find the site, this isn't a very good sampling size.

I understand that this may upset some readers, and am sorry for this fact. I have set up a survey above, and if either the majority of respondents OR at least 15 people are upset by this, I will take down the phrase referring to gender in the OP.