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Comment author: atorm 01 March 2012 04:16:00PM *  6 points [-]

I would like to know someone who tested the Uberman sleep schedule.

Comment author: Vaniver 02 March 2012 04:31:03PM 2 points [-]

Have tried it twice, failed both times. Like Alex_Altair, I recognized problems and attempted to fix them, going so far as to have 24-hour surveillance during my second attempt to ensure that I wouldn't crash. The surveillance only lasted a week, and I started crashing as soon as I went off it. Typically, the transition period process is getting worse until you get better, and I just noticed getting worse. I strongly suspect that there's a biological flag which determines whether or not this can work for you, and it won't work for me.

Comment author: Alex_Altair 01 March 2012 07:11:43PM 2 points [-]

I tested it four times. Each time I failed, figured out the reasons I failed, removed those reasons the next time, and failed again. I've concluded that it doesn't work, at least for me and my friend.

Comment author: kmacneill 08 March 2012 05:01:34PM *  0 points [-]

I maintained a semi-uberman sleep cycle for about 2 months during college (I was Alex_Altair's polyphasic-buddy, for my second attempt). I slept for ~3 hours a day during this time. We spread it out into four 30 minute naps. The transition period took 3 weeks for me (I believe Alex_Altair did not successfully transition, and we abandoned our team effort, but I continued on my own). I would sleep through my first class each day (approximately 50 minutes) and then maintain the sleep cycle properly for the rest of the day. I eventually screwed up sleeping on the weekend (by consciously choosing to oversleep) in a way that resonated the rest of the cycle until I wound up back in monophasic sleep.

Would I do it again? If I had enough time to transition, and a schedule I could set myself, yes. It's probably been long enough since my previous attempt that it seems like a good idea to try again (where what I remember of the transition period is mostly tainted by nostalgia). My natural sleep cycle is somewhat stupid, desiring 10 hours of sleep a day and advancing independently of the earth's rotation, so reducing that to 3 hours a day and having it synchronized with the earth is a major benefit.

Comment author: lavalamp 01 March 2012 09:27:40PM *  1 point [-]

Have tried it. I don't think Uberman is workable for people with a normal SWS (deep sleep) requirement. "Everyman 3" (3 hour core, 3 20-minute naps) is probably doable by anyone who doesn't mind torpedoing their social life; I did that for > 6 months or so.

EDIT: You can measure how much deep sleep you normally get with a Zeo.

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 02 March 2012 01:31:46AM 0 points [-]

Seems interesting, but I work a 10 hour shift, so the logistics of sleeping for 20 minutes every 4 hours isn't going to work. I'll look into it though and see if I can figure something out. Consider it under consideration.