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Comment author: AnnaSalamon 02 March 2012 07:56:20AM 4 points [-]

Cue: I have an "ugh field" across part of my mental landscape -- it feels almost like literal tunnel vision, and is the exact same feeling as the "ugh field" I might get around an unpaid bill. (Except this time it's abstract; it descends out of nowhere while I'm having a conversation about whether we should hire so-and-so, or what SingInst strategy should be, or whatever).

Comment author: fiddlemath 06 March 2012 07:31:57AM *  0 points [-]

Wait, how do you notice an ugh field? I only notice these when I'm viewing myself "in far mode", by trying to explain thoughts or emotions that I have, but wouldn't expect "someone like me" to have.

Comment author: AnnaSalamon 06 March 2012 07:50:36AM 2 points [-]

Huh, really? For me it feels, um, the way I described it above -- I go to think about an important-email-I-need-to-send, or whatever, and I feel physically tense, and averse, and if I wasn't paying attention it used to be that before I'd exercised any conscious control I'd be checking the LW comment feed or something, to move away from the painful stimulus. And if it's a bad case, and something I'm not yet thinking about, it feels as though my eyes stop moving freely across my field of vision,and as though I'm kind of trapped or something, and as though whatever boring thing is in front of me is suddenly intensely absorbing [so that I won't have to think about that other thing]...

Comment author: fiddlemath 07 March 2012 07:15:29AM 1 point [-]

... oh! Thanks, that quite clarifies a few things.

Specifically: I notice my rationalization in the presence of obvious fear or disgust, but hadn't been thinking of strong negative affects as "ugh fields." Before your reply, I hadn't verbally noticed that being suddenly interested in marginal details was a good sign of ugh fields, and thus a likely warning sign for rationalization.