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Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 07 March 2012 02:19:07AM *  0 points [-]

My thinking is that if two factors are correlated in some data, and it's not a fluke/fraud/coincidence/etc., it's reasonable to conclude that at least one of these three is true:

  1. The first factor (directly or indirectly) causes the second.
  2. The second factor (directly or indirectly) causes the first.
  3. Some third factor (directly or indirectly) causes both.

In other words, if you can only think of one plausible explanation for a correlation, it's reasonable to assign it a lot of probability mass (in the same way that if you can think of only one plausible explanation for a murder, it's reasonable to assign it a lot of probability mass). Of course, it's important to keep in mind unknown unknowns, things you didn't think of, and all of the improbable scenarios that might add up to a lot of probability.

Comment author: endoself 07 March 2012 02:44:30AM 1 point [-]

it's reasonable to conclude that at least one of these three is true

These often aren't exhaustive. There's the example of a prestigious university that only admits students who are exceptional either academically or musically. Among students at that university, academic ability is negatively correlated with musical ability, since either one is enough to be admitted, but it is rare to be exceptional in both, assuming they are uncorrelated in the general population. This does not fit into any of those three common reasons for correlation.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 07 March 2012 04:31:04AM 0 points [-]

That's a good scenario to think about. So maybe we can add an additional case where there's some filtering process that's affecting the data we see.

Comment author: fubarobfusco 08 March 2012 04:25:32AM 0 points [-]

A similar, possibly more politically fraught example is the university that grants scholarships either on the basis of academic merit or financial need.