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29 Post author: John_Maxwell_IV 15 March 2012 12:41AM

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Comment author: cousin_it 15 March 2012 07:09:11PM *  1 point [-]

Yes, the reasoning in the linked posts implies that deep inside, humans should be as altruistic as you say. But why should I believe that reasoning? I'd feel a lot more confident if we had an art of rationality that made people demonstrably more successful in mundane affairs and also, as a side effect, made some of them support FAI. If we only get the side effect but not the main benefit, something must be wrong with the reasoning.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 15 March 2012 07:42:09PM *  3 points [-]

Yes, the reasoning in the linked posts implies that deep inside, humans should be as altruistic as you say.

This is not what the posts are about, even if this works as one of the conclusions. The idea that urges and goals should be distinguished, for example, doesn't say what your urges or goals should be, it stands separately on its own. There are many such results, and ideas such as altruism or importance of FAI are only few among them. Do these ideas demonstrate comparatively more visible measurable effect than the other ideas?