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Will_Newsome comments on Muehlhauser-Goertzel Dialogue, Part 1 - Less Wrong Discussion

28 Post author: lukeprog 16 March 2012 05:12PM

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Comment author: Will_Newsome 18 March 2012 02:54:36AM 1 point [-]

His second hyperbolic argument seems to me to be wrong or irrelevant

Agreed. (I like your essay about junk food art. By the way, did you ever actually do the utilitarian calculations re Nazi Germany's health policies? Might you share the results?)

I don't really follow.

Me neither, I just intuit that there might be interesting non-obvious arguments in roughly that argumentspace.

Omega as in the predictor, or Omega as in Chaitin's Omega?

I like to think of the former as the physical manifestation of the latter, and I like to think of both of them as representations of God. But anyway, the latter.

beyond the first few bits due to resource constraints

You mean because it's hard to find/verify bits of omega? But Schmidhuber argues that certain generalized computers can enumerate bits of omega very easily, which is why he developed the idea of a super-omega. I'm not sure what that would imply or if it's relevant... maybe I should look at this again after the next time I re-familiarize myself with the generalized Turing machine literature.

Comment author: gwern 19 March 2012 08:44:00PM 0 points [-]

By the way, did you ever actually do the utilitarian calculations re Nazi Germany's health policies? Might you share the results?

I was going off a library copy, and thought of it only afterwards; I keep hoping someone else will do it for me.

But Schmidhuber argues that certain generalized computers can enumerate bits of omega very easily, which is why he developed the idea of a super-omega.

His jargon is a little much for me. I agree one can approximate Omega by enumerating digits, but what is 'very easily' here?