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6 Post author: Oscar_Cunningham 17 March 2012 09:41AM

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Comment author: WrongBot 17 March 2012 07:15:00PM 3 points [-]

Flitwick is probably also out as an Imperius candidate, being a former international dueling champion and all.

Comment author: Locke 17 March 2012 07:30:28PM 0 points [-]

How are the two connected?

Comment author: Jello_Raptor 17 March 2012 08:46:56PM 3 points [-]

He's more than capable of defending himself, and given that he's probably keyed into the wards at a level just below McGonnagal , it would be a huge security hole if he was easily imperiused.

Comment author: DanArmak 17 March 2012 10:33:07PM 2 points [-]

Flitwick would be beaten in a fight by Quirrelmort, who is both more powerful in raw magic and laughs scornfully at formal dueling rules. He could be taken by surprise as well, or fall into a magical trap, given that Quirrelmort has free access to premises.

Being Imperiused by Quirrelmort isn't the same as being easily Imperiused at all.

Comment author: Jello_Raptor 17 March 2012 10:40:51PM 2 points [-]

Well, given that we're discussing alternatives to Quirrelmort, that doesn't quite apply.

I'd be willing to wager that in MORverse Quirrelmort could imperius even Mc Gonnagal.

Comment author: DanArmak 17 March 2012 11:16:21PM *  0 points [-]

I don't get the sense that McGonnagal is unusually powerful or hard to Imperius, anyway. She's just as much of a candidate as Flitwick.

However, since Hermione was terrified to see the (presumed) real face of H&C... The obvious solution seems ever more obvious. (And Eliezer's last two Author's Notes seemed to suggest it as well, but that is just my interpretation. I was wrong when I stated that he "practically confirmed it" earlier.)

Comment author: gwern 18 March 2012 01:30:26AM *  3 points [-]

However, since Hermione was terrified to see the (presumed) real face of H&C... The obvious solution seems ever more obvious. (And Word of God practically confirmed it!)

Where does Eliezer 'practically' confirm it?

Comment author: DanArmak 18 March 2012 02:17:14AM *  1 point [-]

OK, not as much as I seemed to imply. You're right to call me on it (will edited parent comment).

I was thinking about the Author's Notes for the last two chapters talking about how readers disregard the obvious interpretation, how sometimes when something's clear enough there isn't a twist waiting to be revealed, etc. For some reason when I wrote the comment above, my brain turned that (plus the confirmation of a Quirrel-Voldemort connection) into "confirmation of a Quirrel plot behind current events". Sorry.