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ArisKatsaris comments on Ontologial Reductionism and Invisible Dragons - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: ArisKatsaris 21 March 2012 01:50:12PM *  12 points [-]

For comparison, here is a more likely point of view from that girl.

Does "logic" truly tell you that the young pubescent and prepubescent girls in the situation were more likely to feel gratitude at the killing of their mothers, fathers, brothers and older sisters, than they were to feel grief and hatred for it?

That for the Midianite girls in question P(glad|whole family killed) > P(sad|whole family killed) ?

This seems highly implausible to me.

Comment author: shminux 21 March 2012 09:25:29PM -1 points [-]

Again, applying modern standards to the life 3000 years ago is not helpful. Here is another potential option: her grandfather, realizing that all is lost, decides to deprive the attackers of as much profit as he can, destroying all his valuable property, including the women. He kills the girl's mother and is trying to kill the girl, when he is slain by the soldiers.

This seems highly implausible to me.

An informed opinion of an expert would be more helpful than our idle musings.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 22 March 2012 02:04:09AM *  7 points [-]

Again, applying modern standards to the life 3000 years ago is not helpful.

I'm not applying modern standards. Even Deuterenomy 21:10-14 seems to predict that young captured women will be mourning their father and mother, not be glad at their deaths.

The default emotional response of any human is grief (and/or anger/hate) at the death of one's family, not joy. This seems just human nature, not culture-specific behavior. The exceptions are just that.