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Paulovsk comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 12 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Paulovsk 27 March 2012 02:08:40AM 1 point [-]

Harry as we know him will cease to exist. Voldemort will go on in triumph -- as Harry Potter, the boy who destroyed Voldemort twice over. Harry will be the beloved hero of magical Britain -- and Voldemort inside.

Very structured, but... a sad end? Harry, the almost ratinalist, losing? This seems odd.

Comment author: Alejandro1 27 March 2012 04:17:21AM 12 points [-]

This may be Quirrell's plan, even if Eliezer intends for Harry to defeat it in some way.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 27 March 2012 07:56:30AM 3 points [-]

Yeah, I assume Harry wins in the end, but I expect EY to give Voldemort a better plan than "expose yourself and all your forces in a mass battle at Hogwarts, though you've been successful until then through secrecy, stealth, and terror".

Comment author: DanArmak 27 March 2012 08:56:50PM 0 points [-]

I would like to hope that Eliezer has a surprise in store for anyone who just assumes Harry will win in the end, because he's the protagonist and hero.

Truth isn't that convenient, and rationality (Harry-style) is about facing the truth.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 27 March 2012 10:32:23PM *  1 point [-]

Unless he's writing this as a cautionary tale about unfriendly AI, I expect Mr. Glowy Person to win in the end, even if "The End" is projected beyond the end of the book.

And even if you do end me before I end you, Another will take my place, and another, Until the wound in the world is healed at last...

Comment author: thomblake 27 March 2012 07:21:45PM *  5 points [-]

Very structured, but... a sad end? Harry, the almost ratinalist, losing? This seems odd.

I've been torn on how probable I think this outcome is, but I wouldn't put it past Eliezer. This is the person who thinks bad end is the default end for humanity, and the universe isn't fair, and bad things are allowed to happen. Even if you work really hard to stop them.

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