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Comment author: DanArmak 27 March 2012 09:05:46PM 0 points [-]

Notice how almost everybody who talks about Harry's cloak of invisibility has something to say about it being the Cloak of Invisibility?

This has already played out, in that the cloak turned out to make people invisible to Dementors and also protect them against the Dementors' influence. Also, Harry has "mastered" the cloak in the sense that he can now see other people while they are wearing it. And the idea of it being the cloak is simply taken from canon; people's reactions have just been slightly adjusted for realism.

On the other hand, we suspect that Quirrel has another Deathly Hallow, the Resurrection Stone, and that hasn't played out yet.

Comment author: pedanterrific 27 March 2012 09:28:58PM 6 points [-]

And Dumbledore's possession of the Elder Wand has so far only been alluded to, albeit in some rather unsubtle ways.

...Now that's interesting. The one who wants to defeat Death has the artifact that lets him hide from it, the one who wants to hide from Death has the artifact that lets him speak to the dead, and the one who wants to speak to the dead has the artifact that lets him... well, the Deathstick kind of breaks the pattern, but still.

Comment author: bogdanb 27 March 2012 10:11:31PM 3 points [-]

and the one who wants to speak to the dead has the artifact that lets him...

...make more dead people?

Comment author: pedanterrific 27 March 2012 10:21:55PM 0 points [-]

Yeah, when you think about it even near-total invincibility in battle is kind of a ripoff compared to the others. Makes me wonder if the MoRder Wand has been souped-up. (Maybe it can AK Dementors?)

Comment author: bogdanb 27 March 2012 10:32:25PM 0 points [-]

I don’t think AK would work as such. Anyway, Dumbledore does not seem to actually hate Death.

I doubt that Eliezer follows canon that closely, but the wand did “heal” another broken wand in canon, which apparently everyone found surprising. Perhaps in MoR it can also heal rifts in reality?

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 28 March 2012 01:06:29PM 1 point [-]

This is pretty low-prior. However, it's the best (read: only) solution I've seen so far for the problem that Harry currently can't destroy all the dementors without destroying himself as well. As I suspect that Harry will survive the fic's conclusion and the Dementor species won't, I'm looking forward to see how that gets circumnavigated and this would be a pretty cool way to do it.

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 29 March 2012 01:28:54AM 2 points [-]

The one who wants to defeat Death has the artifact that lets him hide from it, the one who wants to hide from Death has the artifact that lets him speak to the dead, and the one who wants to speak to the dead has the artifact that lets him... well, the Deathstick kind of breaks the pattern, but still.

It doesn't break the pattern, you use it to cast a probably more powerful True Patronus.

Comment author: TobyBartels 01 April 2012 04:16:08PM 1 point [-]

So once everybody gets together and exchanges Hallows, they can all go home happy!

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 28 March 2012 01:03:27PM 1 point [-]

Also, Harry has "mastered" the cloak in the sense that he can now see other people while they are wearing it.

Wow, how did I manage to miss this? When does that happen?

Comment author: DanArmak 28 March 2012 03:15:10PM 2 points [-]

Chapter 56:

Bellatrix was still transparent within the Cloak, but to Harry she was no longer hidden, he knew that she was there, as obvious to him as a Thestral. For Harry had only loaned his Cloak, not given it; and he had comprehended and mastered the Deathly Hallow that had been passed down through the Potter line.

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