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Larks comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 14, chapter 82 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Larks 04 April 2012 04:44:38AM 25 points [-]

It seems both Harry and Dumbledore are missing one of the big payoffs of Harry saving Hermione: making it very attractive to become his freind. There's no explicit enemy around at the moment, so he can't rally minions like Dumbledore did by using the threat of Voldermort; love might be his best option.

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 04 April 2012 11:14:22AM 7 points [-]

Then again Dumbledore just pointed out that being Harry's friend will now make you a target.

Comment author: gjm 04 April 2012 01:11:41PM 2 points [-]

Being Harry's friend already made you a target, hence what happened to Draco and Hermione.

Comment author: LucasSloan 04 April 2012 01:27:20PM 9 points [-]

True, but there was a ceasefire in place regarding friends and family and such. That's what accepting the death of Aberforth, and the murder of Narcissa were about. All of the players anyone knew about had kept to the truce since then.

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 04 April 2012 05:34:04AM 17 points [-]

Everyone knows that Draco was trying to be Harry's friend.

He almost died for his trouble, and Harry's not the one that saved him.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 04 April 2012 10:08:31AM 6 points [-]

He almost died for his trouble,

There doesn't seem to be any causal connection in anyone's mind (other than Harry & Dumbledore) between their friendship and Draco's attempted murder.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 04 April 2012 03:26:42PM 12 points [-]

Friends with Harry -> Interact with crazy mudblood girl -> Crazy Mudblood girl tries to kill you, and Harry defends her.

Comment author: J_Taylor 05 April 2012 02:40:23AM 4 points [-]

Friends with Harry -> Interact with crazy mudblood girl -> Crazy Mudblood girl tries to kill you, and Harry defends her.

->Can't come back to school. -> Loses local positions of power. -> Odds of becoming future bigwig of magical England are reduced.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 04 April 2012 03:31:22PM 10 points [-]

Hermione was a special case in many ways, they were already thought by many to be 'true loves' and she did save him from a Dementor, so it would be unlikely to count as a guarantee. Also Hermione did still have significant costs from this, she was imprisoned, exposed to Dementors, her reputation ruined and now she is bound to the service of the (possibly Dark) Lord Potter. So not an insurance scheme I'd be particularly willing to take up.

Comment author: drethelin 04 April 2012 06:10:58PM 5 points [-]

What he really needs to do is save draco in the same way

Comment author: Alsadius 05 April 2012 05:35:18AM 5 points [-]

Save him from who? His father's(perfectly reasonable) educational decisions?

Comment author: drethelin 05 April 2012 05:55:29AM 0 points [-]

Clearly some unforeseen horrible situation, considering he just saved Hermione from an unforeseen horrible situation.

Comment author: loserthree 05 April 2012 02:38:54AM 2 points [-]

Only if the author wanted to cheapen the whole thing.

And that doesn't seem to be the author's style.