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Comment author: [deleted] 04 April 2012 04:51:00AM *  9 points [-]

One thing I learned from the Imperius debt experience is that this sort of impression can be misleading.

I thought that the possibility of Harry bringing up the Imperius debt was unlikely because it seemed like one of those crack fic ideas and the story so far was very much unlike those. What I failed to consider was that a lot of my impression of the plausibility of the story depends on the external details surrounding it: the writing style, Harry's internal thoughts, the reactions of the other characters, and so on. It was somehow a lot easier for me to come up with such details for other ideas, and so I thought they were much more likely.

Similarly, here, the "Send Dumbledore a conversion table" idea is already a Harry-like thing to do as stated, so it's easy to imagine in a story (it seems a little OOC, but not significantly so). "Just say he's sorry" is not a Harry-like thing to do at all, it's a very generic thing to do. So you don't imagine it being in the story.

But it's easy to wrap the plot feature of Harry just saying he's sorry in believable detail. Have him approach the table while angsting about some psychological experiment related to apologizing. Maybe have him start talking like a book for a minute and then stop and say "So, I guess, what I'm trying to say is... I'm sorry." Have Dumbledore put on a penitent, yet wise and understanding expression and say a Dumbledore thing. Now it's much easier to imagine, isn't it?

Edit: Or let's go the other way. You are, in particular, saying that Harry is ten times as likely to apologize to Dumbledore in writing as he is in person. Stated that way, does it strike you as plausible?

Comment author: linkhyrule5 04 April 2012 05:31:45AM 0 points [-]

Sadly, yes, it does. I could see him apologizing in person, yes... maybe your scenario brings it up to 10 and 3 - three times as likely. But it still seems that apologizing through writing is much more likely.