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wedrifid comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 14, chapter 82 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: wedrifid 08 April 2012 11:45:46AM 3 points [-]

And frankly, there's no humane way to die, so it'd be criminally stupid to murder a woman "nicely" and then fake torturing her in order to torment her husband.

That doesn't seem to follow. If the faking has the same expectation of success and torture of noncombatants has some degree of negative value then the fakery is superior.

Comment author: Alsadius 09 April 2012 02:57:33PM 2 points [-]

But faking does not have the same expectation of success. There's always a chance that the fake may be discovered, whereas if you do it for real, there is no such chance.

Comment author: thomblake 09 April 2012 05:46:21PM 1 point [-]

There's always a chance that the fake may be discovered, whereas if you do it for real, there is no such chance.

Trivially true only if you're not counting the chance of the real death being erroneously discovered to be a fake.

Comment author: Alsadius 09 April 2012 05:57:17PM 1 point [-]

But that can happen if it's actually fake too - getting the right answer from the wrong argument is hardly unprecedented. In any case, the odds of it being believed to be fake(with the consequent effects on Dumbledore's reputation as someone who is willing to go to great lengths to protect the Order's families) go up if it's actually fake.

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