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gwern comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 14, chapter 82 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: gwern 11 April 2012 05:28:40PM *  6 points [-]

Try looking through the Hugo or Nebula best novel awards. Most of them are not didactic like MoR is which makes comparing MoR to them a little unfair since you lose out on the 'I want to base my life on this' effect, and MoR is length-wise at... a trilogy? now, so comparing them to MoR is unfair, and it definitely helps to have read multiple times the heavy influences on MoR like Godel, Escher, Bach or Ender's Game, but I am doing it anyway! Looking through the list, here are ones I've read (~1/3) and would rank as either not much inferior, equal or better than MoR:

  • The City & The City
  • Rainbows End
  • A Fire Upon the Deep
  • Hyperion
  • Ender's Game
  • Claw of the Conciliator (I'm really judging the whole New Sun quartet here)
  • Ringworld
  • Lord of Light
  • Dune
  • A Canticle for Leibowitz
  • The Demolished Man

And this is far from a complete list; for example, Blindsight is fantastic but was only nominated for a Hugo in 2006 (losing to Spin which I have not read).

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 12 April 2012 02:15:08PM 0 points [-]

I liked Spin a lot-- it's a perfect balance between a mainstreamish novel of character and big ideas science fiction. Gur rnegu vf chg va na nyvra rairybcr juvpu znxrf gvzr cnff zhpu snfgre-- nyy bs gur fhqqra, gur fha orpbzvat n erq tvnag vf n frevbhf ceboyrz.