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I have systematically upvoted the last two pages of your comments. After 14 pages of "Quirrelmort" and personal declarations from the author anyone - including Eliezer - who wants to pretend that the speculative kinship is not already a sufficiently thoroughly disseminated meme is being silly.
The accusations that pleeppleep is "not being fair to the spirit of the fanfiction" that I see in the children comments frankly disgust me. Is the "spirit of the fanfiction" playing "Simon Says" or is said spirit just inconsistent and controlling?
It is enough to acknowledge that "Quirrelmort" is no longer the Word of God.
Would you change your mind if I dug up links to the two times in the last two weeks that someone on the LW discussion page asked why everyone was so certain that Q=V, clearly displaying that they didn't know the spoiler?
And just to reiterate, since pleeppleep is determinedly ignoring this fact despite being repeatedly made aware of it, the spoiler isn't "X" but "Eliezer said X".
Out of interest, and as an experimental test of the point I made earlier, what sort of responses did those comments receive?
Here's one.
My theory was correct: the policy did not prevent that user from being told the spoiler. You may say this is because it was violated, as of course it was, but what was the correct response?
"We can't tell you due to the spoiler policy"? "Ryvrmre fnvq fb va na rneyvre nhgube'f abgr gung jnf ergenpgrq"? Would either of those, or indeed any response, have resulted in that user not finding out about it?
If someone says something similar in the next thread, what would you have me do?
The same thing I did then: inform them that it is a spoiler, and give them the option to find out.
No. That is, this does not provide information that surprises me and requires updating - it's 14*500 comments worth of common knowledge, not something that is completely universal.
The point is - this kind of reality editing is tacky and I'm never going to support vilifying pleep or anyone else for not getting behind it. If you go as far as to outright patronize people for not understanding something then it is just too late to pretend it is a secret.
thank you so much! I've actually gotten back almost all my karma now, an I'm really sorry if you've lost any points defending me.
Don't worry those particular points went into battle never expecting to return. Sometimes you need to make them use force!
In this case I could never expect to change majority will but I could change your role from that of lone dissenter who should know better all along to a loser in a controversial policy change. Being a loser is a better role than being weird.