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Comment author: pedanterrific 13 April 2012 08:40:04PM 0 points [-]

Rowling wouldn't have done it because the only nobility in canon Harry Potter is the Black family.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 14 April 2012 12:54:33PM *  0 points [-]

I thought this contradicted at least some of what JKR said about the later (post-Hogwarts) reformation of the wizarding world accomplished by Hermione Granger, but it seems JKR just mentioned laws favoring pure-bloods, not laws favoring an aristocracy/nobility. The relevant passage is this:

After the final battle at Hogwarts, Hermione Granger attained a high position in the Ministry of Magic, first through the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures. There, she continued her work with SPEW, working for the rights of underprivileged non-humans such as house-elves.

She then went on to attain a high position in the Department of Magical Law Enforcement, eradicating the old laws biased in favour of pure-bloods. Along with Harry and Ron, she helped to revolutionize the Ministry and reform the wizarding world. At some point, Hermione, Harry and Ron were all featured on Chocolate Frog Cards for their accomplishments.

Comment author: Desrtopa 13 April 2012 10:01:21PM *  0 points [-]

I'm pretty sure that Lucius Malfoy was Lord Malfoy in canon.

The canon Potterverse showed no signs of being semi-feudal though. I imagine that he was a lord in much the same way that present day Lords of the Commonwealth are, ie. upper class but without meaningful rights over the rest of the population.

Edit: a google search for Lord Malfoy doesn't appear to bring up any text results from canon, but the potter wiki describes him as "aristocratic".

Comment author: pedanterrific 13 April 2012 10:07:39PM *  0 points [-]

I'm pretty sure that Lucius Malfoy was Lord Malfoy in canon.

You would be wrong.

Edit in response to your edit: He is "aristocratic". He's rich, he lives in a manor, he carries a cane, and he's a pureblood. He's just not a lord, or any other sort of noble.

Comment author: Alsadius 13 April 2012 09:57:17PM 0 points [-]

Really? That doesn't seem right.

Comment author: pedanterrific 13 April 2012 10:04:18PM *  1 point [-]

You're right, actually, it isn't. The Black family is just called "the Noble and Most Ancient House of Black", it doesn't actually have any members with any sort of title. So there isn't any nobility.

Sources: NaMAH search, nobility in Harry Potter

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