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ArisKatsaris comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 15, chapter 84 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: [deleted] 15 April 2012 02:14:24AM 7 points [-]

Can somebody explain to me why Harry was so into House points before Azkaban recalibrated his sense of perspective? It makes sense why most people seek them; you take several dozen kids, split them up into different groups, and soon enough you hear them talking about how they can't let those Gryffindor jerkasses win the House Cup and so on. But it seems to me like you need to identify with your House to an unhealthy degree to take so much pleasure in earning points for it. Hermione obviously has that problem (cf. her speech about House Ravenclaw in ch. 34), but I would have expected Harry to avoid falling into such an obvious trap.

Note that Draco never seems interested in getting house points (as far as I can remember, anyways), so I guess his Slytherin education allowed him to see what the Ravenclaws missed: House Points are just one of those totally useless things you use to incentivize people into desired behaviors without having to give them any real, costly rewards. Like employee of the month awards, and military medals, and lesswrong kar-

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Nevermind, I think I get it now.

(But seriously, karma at least has an individual tracking component that allows one to gain status in the community; is there anything about house points that would win Hermione or Harry more status than they would if they just kept getting good grades in class, answering questions correctly, and saving victims from bullies?)

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 16 April 2012 12:20:45AM *  2 points [-]

Who's the person who've deleted their account, and may I ask why? It's always sad/confusing when we lose someone and we can't even know the reason.

Comment author: pedanterrific 16 April 2012 12:35:09AM 6 points [-]

This was jaimeastorga2000. I think Misha deleted their account today too.

Comment author: cousin_it 16 April 2012 03:05:48PM 5 points [-]

I regret that Misha is gone, he was one of the smarter commenters on mathy decision theory posts.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 16 April 2012 11:13:31AM 3 points [-]

(blinks in surprise)

How odd and sad...

Comment author: Nornagest 16 April 2012 12:36:57AM 2 points [-]

Well, for whatever reason he chose to unperson himself, so I'm not sure if I should be saying this, but that was jaimeastorga2000, I believe. I don't know why he decided to leave.