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Jonathan_Elmer comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 15, chapter 84 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: Jonathan_Elmer 16 April 2012 04:12:27AM 2 points [-]

They prophecy does not say that "either he or Harry must die" it says that one will "destroy all but a remnant of the other." One way for that to be true is that Volde dies but is still exists as a spirit due to his horcrux. However even if that is the obvious answer it would be wise for him to try to determine non-obvious ways the prophecy might be fulfilled. Preferably one where he could win. For example, inserting his personality into Harry's mind so that his personality changes Harry's such that it is only a remnant of its previous form.

Prophecies are a done deal, what is said will come to pass. Considering that the obvious answer is that Harry kills Volde it might be a good idea to make sure that happens when Harry is still a baby and cannot finish him off. With the personality insert as a backup plan for fulfilling the prophecy without completely losing.

Comment author: 75th 16 April 2012 05:11:28PM 2 points [-]

Keep in mind that in canon, "either" in the prophecy was used in its lesser-known (but legitimate) definition of "both". "Either must die by the hand of the other", but what really happened was that BOTH died by the hand of the other.

So if that persists in MoR, we should expect both Harry and Voldemort to somehow destroy all but a remnant of the other.

Comment author: Jonathan_Elmer 18 April 2012 12:20:34AM 1 point [-]

Good point.

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 17 April 2012 12:52:04PM 0 points [-]

Prophecies are a done deal, what is said will come to pass.

If I recall correctly, there are unfulfilled prophecies in canon.