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Isn't Harry a little young to have played Fate/Stay Night, both in the sense of it being a Japanese porno game not suitable for 11-year-olds and it not having been made yet when the story is set?
EDIT: Clearly this is intended as a hint that he has the time-traveling adult Voldemort's memories implanted in him.
According to canon, the original PlayStation was available in 1993. So if certain electronic media are available earlier in the MoR universe, it's only a slight embellishment of an existing canon discrepancy.
What canon? The original PS came out in December 1994.
Rowling made a mistake and gave Dudley a PS in 1993.
I am totally using that as my rejoinder there - "If Dudley can get a Playstation in 1993, clearly Playstations are timeless in canon."
Wait, you can violate the six-hour limit on backward movement of information with Playstations?
Does that mean the Department of Mysteries has a Playstation department?
plots evilly
No, no, the sand in the Time-Turners' hourglasses is made of ground-up Playstations.
I don't think that would actually make sand, it must be the game-discs.
This brings to mind the scratched game CD in Homestuck.
Presumably Sega is the only organization with the power to stop PS from taking over the world, hence their constant warfare in Megatokyo.
Eliezer isn't bothering to consider publication dates, and has ignored them in the past- eg Barbour's The End of Time wasn't published until 1999, yet Harry still knows timeless physics.
Eliezer has said that he's giving a pass to any science in the story, but I don't think he's applied that policy to all fiction Harry has consumed. In the Azkaban break, Eliezer noted that Harry was quoting from the trailer of a movie (Army of Darkness,) which hadn't been released yet, and in the tvtropes discussion thread, he attested that he had checked the chronology of the trailer.
I was under the impression Harry didn't learn that from Barbour - he derived it himself.
I don't think so- the passage implied that other muggleborns might know it as well:
Plus I get the feeling that it's beyond Harry's own capabilities, since his original thoughts/ideas are also (generally) Eliezer's original thoughts/ideas
Yeah, no. Harry's smart, but he's not that smart.
Those are very valid objections, but since the phrase "great works of literature like Hamlet or Fate/Stay Night" constantly causes hilarious overreactions whenever I link Three Worlds Collide around, I'm entirely supportive of Eliezer taking liberties for this purpose.
Yeah, Hamlet sucks!
You can always imagine that in the HPMoR fictional universe, Fate/Stay Night came out in some form much earlier -- same way that variations of 'Gargoyles' and "Death Note" seem to have been wizardly entertainment earlier than their real counterparts came out in the real world....
Anyway, it's not really useful to fuss about the chronology of fictional references too much, either from the point of view of the readers, nor from the point of view of the author...
Personally, I find shout-outs less jarring than straight out references to Harry having consumed fiction that shouldn't exist yet. The Tragedy of Light isn't Death Note, it's The Tragedy of Light, even if the real life inspiration is obviously Death Note.
Well, if you ignore the chronological problems, apparently an all-ages version was released by Typemoon in 2007 (Fate/stay night Réalta Nua).
(More generally, visual novels don't necessarily contain that much porn - comparable to what you can find in regular novels. I'm fairly sure there were many more porn scenes in the books I was reading at 11, like Piers Anthony's Bio of a Space Tyrant.)
Or Justine... But perhaps that was just the wrong book to steal from my dad's library. Or right. Updated evidence from encounters later in my life would suggest the latter, public opinion the former.
Anachronism notwithstanding, the anime adaptation isn't pornographic, so he could have seen that instead.
"Clean" versions exist, taping a piece of paper over the screen and holding "enter" is an option, and a lot of the physics is after his time too.
He didn't actually had to have read it, merely to have come across that particular quote.
I know similar sentiments have already been expressed, but...
Calling it a "porno game" seems wrong - that could really only be right if literally everything with a depiction of sex is "porno". It has a couple of sex scenes. At least, someone playing Fate/Stay Night looking for porn will be sorely disappointed.
(And the way the "Creating a physical link between Shirou and Saber" scene was handled in the anime, I think I'd rather it were the sex scene from the visual novel, despite my generally disliking sex scenes.)