thomblake comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 16, chapter 85 - Less Wrong Discussion
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Then expect to be downvoted - anyone else being rude to you will be downvoted as well (not necessarily on net).
Leaving aside the common "people are disagreeing with me" interpretation, I still don't think that's what people (non-technically) mean when they use the word "groupthink". "Groupthink" (in the popular usage) implies that there are beliefs common to the group that are not questioned - for example, accusing Less Wrong of "groupthink" because a comment against cryonics was highly criticized would be the common usage.
Really, it should not be used that way either though, since it's too similar to the technical meaning of the term but entirely wrong.
No, I was not confused about what you meant - I was pointing out how it was not obvious. If you say "Obviously X" and I think X is also obvious to me, then I still might have grounds for arguing that X is not obvious in general. In fact, unless you're talking about something like the color of an object that a particular group of people are currently staring at, it's best to assume that nothing is obvious. If you do use the word "obvious", you should expect objections from people who did not find it obvious, and expect some of them to feel that you are insulting their intelligence.
I do not see how I was playing with semantics. Yes, I take what you write literally. If you do not want me to read the words that you write, then do not write them on this website, as I will probably get around to reading all of them eventually.
Usually, "if my comment was wrong" refers to its factual accuracy, not the quality of your reasoning. So following an accusation of overconfidence with "that would only make sense if my comment was wrong" is misleading.
I'm familiar with that effect, but I don't see how it's a response to either of my statements.
Well I, for one, did not read or downvote anything you said in that other thread until I read this one. Now I've gone back and downvoted all the low-quality comments you made in that thread (note: that is not all of your comments).
There are more constructive things to call that behavior other than "stupid". And I'd like to know how you know that's what people are doing - I have no tools that let me detect that, and looking back at your comment history you have some recent comments that are not at a net negative.
I'm done protecting the theory. I don't have the time to argue with this many different people.
If I haven't convinced you yet then it's either impossible because I'm wrong or impossible because you don't want to understand or you're lying. I don't much care either way, because I don't believe that any reasonable observer would conclude that the remaining objections to what I've been saying are actually important. I believe that I've done enough to convince someone who is actually interested in knowing what happened, and that I can never convince anyone if the amount of work I've done so far isn't enough.
If you have future interactions on this site, please try to avoid "convincing" as a primary goal. This is not debate club.