I was anticipating that people would evaluate my comments based on the arguments I made rather than on their general tone and I didn't update when that was obviously false which was a big mistake. I was expecting that rationalists placed a low value on politeness, like I do. I still place that low value on politeness and I still think many of my arguments are correct but I'm willing to jump through hoops and am willing to accept the fact that others don't accept my arguments.
I need the practice. Even though I don't like being polite and don't think it's objectively good and don't think that my previous comments were unjustified, I need to try to get better at being polite and make myself dislike it less, so that when I pragmatically need to be polite (like you advise) I'm capable of skillfully doing so.
I do expect that this specific comment will receive a minus or two because it's not a capitulation, but that's hardly going to effect my behavior at this point. Lolz. Nyfb, guvf pbzzrag vf n jnl bs grfgvat zl arj hcqngrq zbqry bs gur pbzzragref juvpu fnlf gung V'yy erprvir zber onq xnezn.
I was anticipating that people would evaluate my comments based on the arguments I made rather than on their general tone
The content of comments usually matters more than the tone because usually the tone is OK; you only "lose points" for a bad tone (which is rare), you won't get a lot of credit here if you combine lousy arguments with a great presentation (unlike on say a TV show).
You may want to look into Crocker's Rules, which have been invoked a few times here, and cause much less friction than your "reverse Crocker's Rules".
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