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MugaSofer comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 16, chapter 85 - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: MugaSofer 10 October 2012 11:55:45AM 1 point [-]

I recently came across an old comment decrying the fact that so many readers fail to conclude that Quirrell is possessed by Voldemort (it's so obvious, anyone who disagrees must be horribly biased, was the idea.)

Could anyone who actually thinks this step forward? I'm kinda curious as to how accurate that comment is, even now.

Comment author: Paulovsk 03 November 2012 03:00:52PM 2 points [-]

I had such a hard time convincing myself on this (quirrel = voldemort).

Yes, I'm probably biased, but I don't know how. I suspect it's because I can't think of how Quirrelmort would do all that stuff, so I assumed he wouldn't.

Comment author: MugaSofer 05 November 2012 08:59:00AM 0 points [-]

At last, a reply!

... I think this indicates most readers now believe in Quirrelmort.

I can't think of how Quirrelmort would do all that stuff, so I assumed he wouldn't.

What, all the torturing and so on? Or the horcrux stuff?

Comment author: Paulovsk 05 December 2012 02:28:01AM 0 points [-]

Yep, most of it. I mean, ALL of it. It's just too much. Quirrel (and Voldemort) in the cannon aren't that smart, so I'm having so trouble updating that.

Comment author: Manfred 13 December 2012 06:28:20AM 1 point [-]

I think it's most likely after the end of the Azkaban arc, but before then I was of the opinion that Voldemort was somewhere else and Quirrell was a red herring. Certainly there have been various foreshadowings, but only the sense of doom was actually good evidence, if Eliezer was willing to foreshadow things just to keep us on our toes. But now that we also have drastic personality changes, I'm willing to accept it as most likely.

Comment author: MugaSofer 13 December 2012 09:07:46AM 0 points [-]

I've gotta say, it's looking like everyone (or at least everyone here) has concluded Q=V.

Comment author: [deleted] 16 December 2012 08:52:09PM 0 points [-]

I didn't realize that myself, but in retrospect it does make perfect sense.

Comment author: Eneasz 17 December 2012 05:19:17PM -1 points [-]

I resisted it for a long time, because I love Quirrell and I don't want him to be the villian. Once I finally came to terms with the fact, I immediately recast him as the sympathetic villian. This has ended up making the story even better for me.