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ChrisHallquist comments on Muehlhauser-Wang Dialogue - Less Wrong Discussion

24 Post author: lukeprog 22 April 2012 10:40PM

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Comment author: gjm 23 April 2012 11:26:43PM 3 points [-]

Apologies if you're merely joking, but: Obviously Jack's (and my) problem with the hyperlinks here is not that academic-paper-style citations would be better but that attaching those references to terms like "wrong question" and "hack away at the edges" (by whatever means) gives a bad impression.

The point is that the ideas conveyed by "wrong question" and "hack away at the edges" in that paragraph are not particularly abstruse or original or surprising; that someone as smart as Pei Wang can reasonably be expected to be familiar with them already; and that the particular versions of those ideas found at the far ends of those hyperlinks are likewise not terribly special. Accordingly, linking to them suggests (1) that Luke thinks Pei Wang is (relative to what one might expect of a competent academic in his field) rather dim, and -- less strongly -- (2) that Luke thinks that the right way to treat this dimness is for him to drink of the LW kool-aid.

Comment author: ChrisHallquist 26 April 2012 11:22:37PM 0 points [-]

But this dialog wasn't just written for Pei Wang, it was written for public consumption. Some of the audience will not know these things.

And even smart academics don't know every piece of jargon in existence. We tend to overestimate how much of what we know is stuff other people (or other people we see as our equals) know. This is related to Eliezer's post "Explainers Shoot High, Aim Low!"