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buybuydandavis comments on [SEQ RERUN] Bell's Theorem: No EPR "Reality" - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: buybuydandavis 25 April 2012 06:42:01PM 1 point [-]

My impression is that most people take for granted that Bell was correct, and consider it a done deal. Another impression is that "pretty much everyone else" mistakenly takes ontological randomness as a conceptual given on a macro level, and there has yet to be conclusive evidence (see detector efficiency) that ontological randomness operates on a micro level.

I'm not saying he is right. I'm saying that I haven't seen any better probabilistic analysis of the issue than what I've seen from Jaynes, and the evidence so far doesn't conclusively prove him wrong.

Comment author: Manfred 26 April 2012 12:55:47AM *  1 point [-]

Well, maybe my complaint about authority is just be hindsight talking. This is because it's not like entanglement has never again been part of scientific research - quantum computers are made of the stuff. Electrons are just not classical objects.

And I think that, if we treat the universe as based on causality (a la Judea Pearl), the hidden variable route ( P(A | B a b) = P(A | a b) ) really is the only relativistic one, if we avoid many worlds. There are three ways for events to be linked: direct causally linked (faster than light), both descendants of a node we know about (hidden variable), or both ancestors of a node we know about (faster than light).