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Comment author: wedrifid 26 May 2012 04:47:08AM *  3 points [-]

(In the spirit of making forceful declarations of stances.)

I am a utilitarian consequentialist

Is this prescribed by the sequences? If so (and, I suppose, if not) I wholeheartedly reject it. All utilitarian value systems are both crazy and abhorrent to me.

and think that if allow someone to die through inaction, you're just as culpable as a murderer.

Your judgement is both distasteful to me as a way of evaluating the desirability of aspects of the universal wave function and highly suspect as a way of interacting practically with reality. Further, this is a position that I consider naive and offensive when implemented via social moves against others. If Eliezer actually said that people should have this belief he is wrong.

Furthermore, I agree with every essay I've ever read by Yvain, I use "believe whatever gwern believes" as a heuristic/algorithm for generating true beliefs, and don't disagree with anything I've ever seen written by Vladimir Nesov, Kaj Sotala, Luke Muelhauser, komponisto, or even Wei Dai

I have seen disagreements among people on that list. In fact, I've seen Vladimir openly disagree with his past self. Good for him. Bad for you.

Comment author: MarkusRamikin 27 May 2012 09:14:24AM *  2 points [-]

All utilitarian value systems are both crazy and abhorrent to me.

Would you be willing to expand on this? (Or have you done so elsewhere that I could read?)