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Comment author: TheOtherDave 22 May 2012 04:40:04PM 11 points [-]

In general, my approach to dealing with such people is to stop talking about what's really true, and instead talk exclusively about what experiences I anticipate if I perform various actions.

We may not be able to agree on whether there's really a hammer in my hand or not, but if we can agree that if I do something I experience as swinging this hammer at someone's skull, the other person will reliably experience having their skull hit by a hammer, then our disagreement doesn't matter much.

Of course, as you say, ego gets tied up in having other people talk about the world in ways that match my preferences.
I try to reject that when I find myself doing it.

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 23 May 2012 06:02:58AM *  4 points [-]

In general, my approach to dealing with such people is to stop talking about what's really true, and instead talk exclusively about what experiences I anticipate if I perform various actions.

Talking about your anticipated experiences rather than the Truth is what many people mean by anti-realism.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 23 May 2012 12:23:39PM 2 points [-]

Sure, I can see that.

Using the language with people that concentrates both of our attention on our actual goals is an example of what I mean by pragmatism.

I mean, if someone wants to discuss ontology and epistemology, that's cool, I'll do that too.
But I'm fairly confident that's usually not what's going on.