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wedrifid comments on This post is for sacrificing my credibility! - Less Wrong Discussion

-29 Post author: Will_Newsome 02 June 2012 12:08AM

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Comment author: wedrifid 02 June 2012 01:34:26AM 12 points [-]

you are not bright enough, informed enough, or a careful enough thinker that we gain much from a not highly censored stream of your thoughts.

He is bright enough and informed enough.

Comment author: CarlShulman 02 June 2012 01:50:22AM 3 points [-]

Presumably, "good enough" depends on at least all three factors, and strength in one can offset deficits in others.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 02 June 2012 01:48:37AM *  -2 points [-]

Thanks, wedrifid, that means a lot to me. :) (Not that I should ignore the part about not being nearly careful enough in your eyes, of course.)

Comment author: wedrifid 02 June 2012 02:03:33AM 2 points [-]

Not that I should ignore the part about not being nearly careful enough in your eyes, of course

You could actually take that as a third validation. After all I am declaring that you are successfully achieving what you set out to achieve as an instrumental goal - portray a lack of credibility. It would be totally implausible for me to maintain (or for you to cause me to maintain) a significantly lowered estimation of your credibility while simultaneously believing that you excelled in the 'careful thinking' department as well as the previously mentioned categories.

Comment author: mwengler 02 June 2012 04:22:48PM 5 points [-]

I disagree entirely, and think there is some sort of "lets pretend we are talking about what we say we are talking about" bias at work here.

Will SAYS he is talking about reducing his credibility. He then does not use a host of tools which would do that very effectively ( I think there are many choices, but making errors of fact and logic would be a good start). Speaking cryptically is NOT a very good way to reduce your credibility, except possibly among some subset of people.

What Will is more successfully doing is 1) intriguing a subset of people 2) tweaking the crap out of a large subset of people (in a way that seems orthogonal to credibility seems to me)

Just because he SAYS he is trying to reduce his credibility does not mean that is what he is actually trying to do. I am not sure what he IS trying to do.