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shokwave comments on This post is for sacrificing my credibility! - Less Wrong Discussion

-29 Post author: Will_Newsome 02 June 2012 12:08AM

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Comment author: shokwave 02 June 2012 05:41:54AM 1 point [-]

Whence our disagreement, if one exists?

Credibility moves, like status moves, cannot be self-recognising and still effective. I believe this, you don't, there's our disagreement.

Comment author: wedrifid 02 June 2012 06:17:24AM 2 points [-]

Credibility moves, like status moves, cannot be self-recognising and still effective. I believe this, you don't, there's our disagreement.

I'm not sure I agree with this either. You can't make a self-recognising move to gain credibility that is effective? Since it should be impossible to (predictably) make a sequence of difficult claims to a greater degree of impressive reliability than previous credibility judgements would allow. This demonstrates that you have at least the capability to give trustworthy utterances. This gives you more credibility when there is a reason to expect you to be attempting to make good claims.

Comment author: vi21maobk9vp 02 June 2012 07:59:58AM 0 points [-]

Credibility moves can easily be self-recognizing and still effective. I say that you shouldn't believe me and I will say a lot of meaningless things - it raises the probability that my claims are just playacting.