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Comment author: TheOtherDave 08 June 2012 03:19:34PM 0 points [-]

I understand why it seemed obvious to you.
I also understand that your dismissive rhetorical tone isn't intended to be rude.

Getting back to content:

  • I agree with you that if we wait long enough everyone who considers themselves conservative will approve of whatever social changes we make, supposing those social changes last that long.

  • I don't believe that implementing your proposal right away will make conservatives currently happy.

  • I don't have a clear sense of what you mean by "traditionalists."

  • There exists a non-empty set of issues X such that 1982 conservatives agree more with 2012 conservatives on X than they do with 1982 anti-conservatives. There also exists a non-empty set X2 such that 1982 conservatives agree the same or more with 1982 anti-conservatives than with 2012 conservatives on X2. I am not sure whether (X2 > X1) or (X2 < X1) by any interesting metric, and I'm fairly certain that (X1 > .1X2).

Comment author: [deleted] 11 June 2012 07:16:54AM *  0 points [-]

I agree with you that if we wait long enough everyone who considers themselves conservative will approve of whatever social changes we make, supposing those social changes last that long.

I don't believe that implementing your proposal right away will make conservatives currently happy.

We agree on these points.

I don't have a clear sense of what you mean by "traditionalists."

Basically people who are nerds about adhering to some older traditional style Christianity. Some of them are protestants but their intellectual core as you may have guessed from the blogs are Catholic and Orthodox. As odd as this might sound American Evangelical fundamentalists are actually mostly practising a young take on the religion.

I am not sure whether (X2 > X1) or (X2 < X1) by any interesting metric, and I'm fairly certain that (X1 > .1X2).

I think X1 probably consists mostly of economic issues.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 11 June 2012 01:19:56PM 0 points [-]

I think X1 probably consists mostly of economic issues.

That is certainly consistent with a popular narrative about American conservatism now and 40 years ago. Whether statistics back it up, I don't know.