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Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 18 June 2012 06:15:20PM 2 points [-]

From a "logical argument" point of view, Vaniver has the right point of view. Reductionism is the key.

From a Dark Arts point of view, reading Leah's post suggests the reason she fell toward Catholicism when she got confused on morality was that she had a bunch of Catholic friends around. Thus being a conspicuously moral (and high-status) atheist will give her an example to fall back to. This isn't too Dark Arts-ish, since you presumably try to be high-status and moral anyway.

Comment author: MBlume 27 July 2012 07:25:32PM *  0 points [-]

Thus being a conspicuously moral [...] atheist will give her an example to fall back to.

No. Having a defensible, coherent framework from which to ground morality and being a moral person are...hopefully not totally unrelated, but still not the same thing. This is a far too common rhetorical mistake, same as when we atheists act offended because religious people must think us all horribly immoral people.