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Comment author: Dallas 04 July 2012 12:41:49PM 4 points [-]

An alien civilization within the boundaries of the current observable universe has, or will have within the next 10 billion years, created a work of art which includes something directly analogous to the structure of the "dawn motif" from the beginning of Richard Strauss's Also sprach Zarathustra. (~90%)

Comment author: TheOtherDave 04 July 2012 03:47:55PM 5 points [-]

I'm inclined to downvote this for agreement, but haven't yet. Can you say more about what "directly analogous" means? How different from ASZ can this work of art be and still count?

Comment author: Dallas 05 July 2012 03:38:53AM 7 points [-]
  1. The art form must be linear and intend to proceed without interaction from the user.
  2. The length of the three "notes" must be in 8:8:15 ratio (in that order).
  3. The main distinguishing factor between "notes", must be in 2:3:4 ratio (in that order).
  4. The motif must be the overwhelmingly dominant "voice" when it occurs.
Comment author: faul_sname 05 July 2012 04:01:34AM 4 points [-]

Upvoted for overconfidence, not about the directly analogous art form (I suspect that even several hundred pieces of human art have that) but about there being other civilizations within the observable universe.

Though I would still give that at least 20%.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 05 July 2012 03:43:15AM 2 points [-]

Cool. Upvoted immediate parent for specificity and downvoted grandparent for agreement.

Comment author: FiftyTwo 06 July 2012 09:33:01PM 2 points [-]

The probability of this would seem to depend on the resolution of the fermi paradox. If life is relatively common then it would seem to be true purely by statistics. If life is relatively rare then it would require some sort of shared aesthetic standard. Are you saying aesthetics might be universal in the same way as say mathematics?

Comment author: wedrifid 09 July 2012 09:54:55PM 0 points [-]

An alien civilization within the boundaries of the current observable universe has, or will have within the next 10 billion years, created a work of art which includes something directly analogous to the structure of the "dawn motif" from the beginning of Richard Strauss's Also sprach Zarathustra. (~90%)

I would have upvoted this even if it limited itself to "intelligent aliens exist in the current observable universe".

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