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Comment author: Yvain 20 July 2012 02:37:30AM *  2 points [-]

Irrationality game comment

The importance of waste heat in the brain is generally under-appreciated. An overheated brain is a major source of mental exhaustion, akrasia, and brain fog. One easy way to increase the amount of practical intelligence we can bring to bear on complicated tasks (with or without an accompanying increase in IQ itself) is to improving cooling in the brain. This would be most effective with some kind of surgical cooling system thingy, but even simple things like being in a cold room could help

Confidence: 30%

Comment author: gwern 20 July 2012 03:35:45AM *  4 points [-]

The nice thing about this one is that it's really easy to test yourself. A plastic bag to put ice or hot water into, and some computerized mental exercise like dual n-back. I know if I thought this at anywhere close to 30% I'd test it...

EDIT: see Yvain's full version: http://squid314.livejournal.com/320770.html http://squid314.livejournal.com/321233.html http://squid314.livejournal.com/321773.html

Comment author: Yvain 27 July 2012 08:40:17PM 1 point [-]

Self-experimentation seems like a really bad way to test things about mental exhaustion. It would be way too easy to placebo myself into working for a longer amount of time without a break, when testing the condition that would support my theory. Might wait until I can find a test subject.

Comment author: gwern 27 July 2012 08:50:55PM 7 points [-]

If you got a result consistent with your theory, then yes it might just be placebo effect, but is that result entirely useless; and if you got a result inconsistent with your theory, is that useless as well?

Comment author: wedrifid 08 September 2013 01:06:08AM 2 points [-]

but is that result entirely useless; and if you got a result inconsistent with your theory, is that useless as well?

"Conservation of expected uselessness!"

Comment author: [deleted] 03 February 2013 09:44:32PM 1 point [-]

INSERT THE ROD, JOHN.

Comment author: Jonathan_Graehl 11 October 2012 12:39:23AM 1 point [-]

Overheating your body enough to limit athletic performance (whether due to associated dehydration or not) is probably enough to impair the brain as well. Dehydration is known to cause headaches.

I think the effect exists. But what's the size, when you're merely sedentary + thinking + suffering a hot+humid day?

Comment author: wedrifid 08 September 2013 12:17:16AM 0 points [-]

One easy way to increase the amount of practical intelligence we can bring to bear on complicated tasks (with or without an accompanying increase in IQ itself) is to improving cooling in the brain.

To the pork futures warehouse!

Comment author: AlexSchell 07 August 2012 08:50:17PM 0 points [-]

Some indirect evidence from yawning, with a few references: http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/ep0592101.pdf